The follow-up consultation
So last week, my wife and I visited the obs/gynae consultant for our follow-up appointment. It took an e-mail and a couple of phone calls to arrange this consultation - I think his secretary was either incredibly busy or away on vacation. (This is how keen we were to get a follow-up appointment: I even visited my GP a couple of weeks earlier to see if she could sort something out, but coincidentally I got a call from the consultant's secretary that same morning, so it was all good.)
Anyway, he went through the results as he'd discussed in the letter to me. And then he suggested that we had two options, both involving assisted conception. Either a) extract sperm from the larger of my testes (assuming that anything is happening down there) or b) donor sperm.
Now given my ethnic background, and the fact that the number of sperm donors in the UK is decreasing (thanks to the Government passing a law that children born from donor sperm can seek out their biological father at the age of 18 - no more 'anonymous' donations), the consultant suggested that, even with a 1 in 5 chance of extracting any sperm that I may be producing, that it would be worth going down the extraction route.
I have a colleague at work whose sister recently gave birth to a girl conceived via IVF. My colleague told me that her sister had had two cycles of IVF, at a cost of £5,000 a time. So £10,000 in all. (I'm sure I've read somewhere that two or three IVF cycles is common.)
For a lot of people, £10,000 is pretty substantial money. Now, it was recommend by John Reid, whilst he was the Health Secretary, that couples seeking IVF on the NHS should have at least one cycle provided free. But, if you read the papers or watch the news on TV, you'll know that the NHS is going through a bit of a financial crisis right now. So I guess that this is all pie in the sky - it doesn't help either that there is a postcode lottery as to whether you'll get any such treatment (it's all down to the way the NHS is managed regionally - let's just say it's fairly complex, and probably doesn't make a lot of sense to most of us.)
I remember reading an article, or hearing on the radio, a suggestion that the Government should fully fund IVF, because if the child lives to working age, and works until retirement (currently 65 years old), the amount that that person would repay in taxes would more than repay the 'investment' in IVF. I've had arguments with people that this is entirely sensible, given the relatively small number of couples seeking IVF. (In the bigger scheme of things, how much is the Government spending on military activity and international aid? Sorry, I'm getting political now...)
But I digress. Our consultant has written to a specialist at the local fertility clinic, so we should be hearing from him soon. Hopefully, he'll be able to discuss with us further the probability of extracting sperm, and all the other relevant details. We await the appointment letter.
Anyway, he went through the results as he'd discussed in the letter to me. And then he suggested that we had two options, both involving assisted conception. Either a) extract sperm from the larger of my testes (assuming that anything is happening down there) or b) donor sperm.
Now given my ethnic background, and the fact that the number of sperm donors in the UK is decreasing (thanks to the Government passing a law that children born from donor sperm can seek out their biological father at the age of 18 - no more 'anonymous' donations), the consultant suggested that, even with a 1 in 5 chance of extracting any sperm that I may be producing, that it would be worth going down the extraction route.
I have a colleague at work whose sister recently gave birth to a girl conceived via IVF. My colleague told me that her sister had had two cycles of IVF, at a cost of £5,000 a time. So £10,000 in all. (I'm sure I've read somewhere that two or three IVF cycles is common.)
For a lot of people, £10,000 is pretty substantial money. Now, it was recommend by John Reid, whilst he was the Health Secretary, that couples seeking IVF on the NHS should have at least one cycle provided free. But, if you read the papers or watch the news on TV, you'll know that the NHS is going through a bit of a financial crisis right now. So I guess that this is all pie in the sky - it doesn't help either that there is a postcode lottery as to whether you'll get any such treatment (it's all down to the way the NHS is managed regionally - let's just say it's fairly complex, and probably doesn't make a lot of sense to most of us.)
I remember reading an article, or hearing on the radio, a suggestion that the Government should fully fund IVF, because if the child lives to working age, and works until retirement (currently 65 years old), the amount that that person would repay in taxes would more than repay the 'investment' in IVF. I've had arguments with people that this is entirely sensible, given the relatively small number of couples seeking IVF. (In the bigger scheme of things, how much is the Government spending on military activity and international aid? Sorry, I'm getting political now...)
But I digress. Our consultant has written to a specialist at the local fertility clinic, so we should be hearing from him soon. Hopefully, he'll be able to discuss with us further the probability of extracting sperm, and all the other relevant details. We await the appointment letter.
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With my husband's hormone levels, they estimated a 1:3 chance of finding sperm through TESE.
The TESE would have cost $5K, not to mention the consultation and appointment fees of the big city urologist. Through our insurance company, IVF itself would be $10K. Last, but not least, ICSI (which would be necessary), would be another $3K. So all told- about $18,000 for one cycle.
We just didn't have it...
Of course, your situation is very different. Can Britans work with overseas banks? Many banks in the US specialize in donors who are willing to be known when the child turns 18.
I hope sperm extraction works for you, and the financing of it goes well. Good luck!
-D.
By Dramalish, at 12:30 am, October 09, 2006
Its been a few weeks since this post? Any word on an appointment date? I wish you the best of luck.
By Clover, at 2:51 pm, October 17, 2006
Thanks LeggyP, I've added a couple more postings (as you've probably seen!)
By Benchimus, at 4:17 pm, October 17, 2006
My hubby and I share the same problem as you and your wife do, he also was diagnosed as azoospermia and by a "cruel-heart" andrologist, only by 2 consultation meetings, we were suggested to "forget" having a baby in normal way, the only way for us is by adoption.
Since then we have been trying to seek for alternatives to have a baby until we came across the "only" solution now, ICSI+IVF.
After reading your last blog on 17/10/06, we also concern about the same thing, we have gathered informations that ICSI babies may be "weaker" or may born abnormal, since it is required for the strongest sperm to fertilized an egg, and through the ICSI process the requirement were bypassed. And personally I agree, as much as we wanted a child, it will be too painful to have an abnormal child, I know it sounds selfish, but right now it's the truth from my deepest heart.
We are still searching the best way for us including the chinese medication (accupuncture and herbal medicine), spiritual person, etc, and we leave the ICSI+IVF option for the last, and hopefully we don't have to go through the ICSI+IVF.
I hope you will continue sharing the journey with us. Thank's for the "need to be perfect" reason, that's also assuring me that you are someone who doesn't like to go to a road which you are not sure yourself, since we all should be realistic and alway keep our hopes high....
By Unknown, at 7:14 am, November 15, 2006
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